Question 1

Should I show models my pose idea images?

Garion Hall · Accepted Answer

While it's ultimately up to the Shoot Producer how they direct models into poses, from experience we've found it best not to show models pose ideas images, for a few reasons. Every situation is different, and your own judgement is paramount, but here are our considerations.

Missed opportunities when getting into a pose

While you direct a model "piece by piece" into a pose, you'll often see things / have ideas to capture right then (ie, before she attains the actual “destination” pose). As you've been trained in the abbywinters.com paradigm, you're more likely to gradually direct her into a pose with these opportunities in mind, and that journey can result in some excellent poses as well!

Reference images can have subtle aspects that models miss

Being mostly amateurs, our models often don't “get” what it is about a pose that is good. Small things like pointing toes, pushing bum up, keeping hair placed right, hiding tattoos, positioning clothing items - these can all make or break a pose. But they’re often not clear in reference images.

Reference images are designed to inspire the SP, not the model

Almost always, what's in a reference pic is not actually the exact pose we want, it's an idea that you filter through your understanding of the abbywinters.com paradigm, the location, the model, the Posing Level, the clothing, lighting, and so on. The valuable part of a reference pic is what it triggers in your head (based on that training and experience), not what it "literally" shows. So, by showing the pic to the model, you send her mixed messages which can be confusing.

Reference images are often off-paradigm

Reference images are often "off paradigm" - models in them might wear heels or makeup, or have fake boobs, etc, and are often doing the duck-face (some may even have a male model fucking them. That's not suitable to show to a nude-only model - she might assume the Shoot Producer is about to undress and fuck her!). Also, some models may be put-off by the "porniness" - or worse, assume that's how we want them to behave (it isn’t)! Imagine her thinking, “Do they want me to pose like a porn star? In my Info Session, they said they’re not into that kinda thing!”.

Question 2

Should I show models my pose idea images?

Garion Hall · Accepted Answer

While it's ultimately up to the Shoot Producer how they direct models into poses, from experience we've found it best not to show models pose ideas images, for a few reasons. Every situation is different, and your own judgement is paramount, but here are our considerations.

Missed opportunities when getting into a pose

While you direct a model "piece by piece" into a pose, you'll often see things / have ideas to capture right then (ie, before she attains the actual “destination” pose). As you've been trained in the abbywinters.com paradigm, you're more likely to gradually direct her into a pose with these opportunities in mind, and that journey can result in some excellent poses as well!

Reference images can have subtle aspects that models miss

Being mostly amateurs, our models often don't “get” what it is about a pose that is good. Small things like pointing toes, pushing bum up, keeping hair placed right, hiding tattoos, positioning clothing items - these can all make or break a pose. But they’re often not clear in reference images.

Reference images are designed to inspire the SP, not the model

Almost always, what's in a reference pic is not actually the exact pose we want, it's an idea that you filter through your understanding of the abbywinters.com paradigm, the location, the model, the Posing Level, the clothing, lighting, and so on. The valuable part of a reference pic is what it triggers in your head (based on that training and experience), not what it "literally" shows. So, by showing the pic to the model, you send her mixed messages which can be confusing.

Reference images are often off-paradigm

Reference images are often "off paradigm" - models in them might wear heels or makeup, or have fake boobs, etc, and are often doing the duck-face (some may even have a male model fucking them. That's not suitable to show to a nude-only model - she might assume the Shoot Producer is about to undress and fuck her!). Also, some models may be put-off by the "porniness" - or worse, assume that's how we want them to behave (it isn’t)! Imagine her thinking, “Do they want me to pose like a porn star? In my Info Session, they said they’re not into that kinda thing!”.